Although I did not have the opportunity to interview Mayan Elders from Guatemala on 2012 and the end of the world, here is an excerpt from an online article about Carlos Barrios who is Day Keeper of the Eagle Clan of the Mam Maya in Guatemala. The article is by Mark Heley.
Evidently Carlos, who is Spanish rather than Maya, has, nonetheless, studied the Mam Maya Eagle Clan for 25 years. As their spokesman, he says that the Elders of the Maya Mam Eagle Clan do not believe the world will end in 2012 but that it will be transformed from the fourth to the fifth world of creation, and that a new element, ether, will be part of our understanding of life on earth.
According to Barrios, as we transition between the fourth and fifth worlds, the old economic order will break down and the world banking system will collapse. He also foretells the melting of the polar ice caps and a general rise in sea level, though this has been a mainstay of climate-change prediction for some time.
Carlos Barrios
I will be speaking at the Edgar Cayce Forum on this Wednesday, October 26, at 7:30 p.m. on: Do Mayan Shamans Believe the World Will End in 2012? at Edgar Cayce’s A.R.E. in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
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I am trying to make sense of all the information on the 2012 prediction … and there is TONS of information on the topic, many of it conflicting. No sooner do I rejoice becasue I have found what appears to be a genuine Mayan prophecy on the end of the world 2012 in the Books of Chilam Balam (see The Short Count and the Books of Chilam Balam — Guide to 2012) than I become confused when I read a Wikipedia article (the 2012 Phenomenon), which doesn’t seem to have anything on Chilam Balam and 2012 even though a Google search lists Wikipedia’s 2012 Phenomenon first for my “Chilam Balam 2012” search.
During my 2009 visit to Yucatan, I videotaped a Maya man who talked about the Books of Chilam Balam as being very important to him. His mother tongue is Mayan, his second language is Spanish. He reads the Chilam Balam. If I remember correctly, when I asked him if there was a 2012 end of the world prediction in the Chilam Balam, he said that there was no specific date … if my memory is correct. I’m going to have to take a look a my video footage of that interview. Maybe I can get some clarity on the Chilam Balam since there seems to be conflicting views on the internet as concerns the Chilam Balam and any 2012 prophecy contained within it.
Do you have any information on the Books of Chilam Balam and the 2012 end of the world prophecies?
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The Books of Chilam Balam where written in the Yucatecan Mayan language but using Latin script. The books were written in the 1700s and include prophecies about the end of the world, some believe associated with 2012.
In the Mayan language, Chilam means a priest that makes prophecies. Balam means jaguar and is a common name among the Maya.
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A 2012 end of the world prophecy in the Maya’s Chilam Balam, the prophecies of the Jaguar Priesthood:
“In the final days of misfortune, in the final days of tying up the bundle of the thirteen (baktuns) on 4 Ahau, then the end of the world shall come and the katun of our fathers will ascend on high.” — The Book of Chilam Balam of Tizimin (Makemson)
Wow! If that isn’t an end of the world prophecy, I don’t know what is!
This is also from the online article, The Short Count and the Books of Chilam Balam. The article is by Mark Heley. According to the article, the prophecy is for the calendar cycle beginning on December 21, 2012.
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Although the 2012 prophecy on Tortuguero’s Monument 6 does not seem to foretell an end ofthe world, the Chilam Balam does. Here’s a quote from the Chilam Balam from the online article entitled, The Short Count and the Books of Chilam Balam:
Continue reading“These valleys of the earth shall come to an end. For those katuns there shall be no priests, and no one who believes in his government without having doubts.” — The Book of Chilam Balam of Tizimin
I am delighted to discover a corroboration of a Mayan Long Count Calendar date recorded on a tall stone slab called a stele. This date is on a particular stele called Stele One at the Mayan ruin in Coba. While videotaping footage for the Yucatan Travel Movie, we spent considerable time filming Stele One, and trying to get it right, whether the date on it was 4.1 billion, billion, billion years into the future or 4.1 billion, billion, billion, billion years into the future (3 or 4 billion years). The following excerpt from Wikipedia’s 2012 Phenomenon article states definitively that it was actually 41 octillion years in the future, or perhaps, an equal distance of time into the past. Ho hm, these confusing Mayan glyphs! Anyway, I am delighted to discover that we at least got the stele right, and the 4.1 (or 41) of the date correct.
Another example is Stele 1 at Coba, which gives a date of 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, or twenty units above the b’ak’tun, placing it either 4.134105 × 1028 (41 octillion) years in the future,[26] or an equal distance in the past.[38] This date is 3 quintillion times the age of the universe as determined by cosmologists.
~ 2012 Phenomenon
Stele One also has a date on it that alludes to December 21, 2012.
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(Yesterday’s post continued …) I do not think the Maya included Haab and T’zolkin calendar dates with the 13.0.0.0.0 Bak’tun Long Count Calendar date in the December 21, 2012 prediction for cross-referencing, which, according to my thesaurus means as an annotation or footnote or postscript, in other words, as something separate from the prophecy. I think the Haab and T’zolkin calendar dates are part of the prophecy. In other words, the two extra calendar dates are important to the prophecy since the whole next 5,280 year cycle–or even the 25,800 year cycle–begins on a date that is colored by the meaning of these Haab and T’zolkin dates.
Maybe I just don’t understand the meaning of the word, “cross-referencing.”
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I just found a Mayan calendar website, called The Mayan Calendar, that says that K’ank’in (also known as Uniiw, the month in which the December 21, 2012 Mayan Long Count date occurs), means not only “yellow sun” but also “ribs” and “skeleton.” Hm, it is beginning to sound a bit ominous after all.
A discussion of the Mayan Calendar as it relates to the 2012 prophecy will be part of my lecture called, “Do Mayan Shamans believe the world will end in 2012?” I will be speaking at Edgar Cayce’s A.R.E. in Virginia Beach at 7:30 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26th. The event is sponsored by The Edgar Cayce Forum.
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We no longer think of the number ten when we say December. I wonder if the ancient Maya, when they said the day was the 3rd of Uniiw, also called K’ank’in, did not know that Uniiw meant “the yellow sun.” Was it just the name of a month to them as December is to us?
Or did the ancient Maya believe that the day was influenced by the meaning of the month it was in? If so, a day in the yellow sun month sounds like an OK month to me.
According to a very informative Wikipedia article entitled, Haab, in their Haab calendar, the ancient Maya do have a month named Tzek, which means “death,” and another month, “Ch’en” that means, “black storm.” I would think that if December 21, 2012, corresponded to the Mayan month of Tzek or Ch’en, there would be more cause for alarm. However, a date in the month of “Yellow sun” does not seem very ominous to me.
During my talk on October 26th at 7:30 p.m. for the Edgar Cayce Forum at Edgar Cayce’s A.R.E. in Virginia Beach, Virginia, I will include information gathered during interviews with Mayan Elders. The lecture is called: Do Mayan Shamans believe the world will end in 2012?
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By the way, in referring to yesterday’s post on the Haab Mayan calendar date of December 21, 2012, the month of Uniiw (or K’ank’in) means “yellow sun” in the ancient Mayan language.
In the same way, December, in our calendrical system, means “ten,” because December was the 10th month of the year in the original Roman calendar until two more winter months of January and February were added.
I will be speaking on the topic of “Do Mayan Shamans believe the world will end in 2012?” at the Edgar Cayce Forum on October 26th at 7:30 p.m. at Edgar Cayce’s A.R.E. in Virginia Beach.
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